Friday, November 6, 2009

B20b swap need help!?

i"m trying to swap a b20b engine into my 93 honda del sol..now.. i know how to do this but the problem is that I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA...!! and i'm trying to see if i can legalized in the State.. or is it going to be impossible?? what do i need to do??
B20b swap need help!?
not possible, there are a few rules for motor swaps if you wish to make it legal





1. Swap must be from a same year OR a newer car.


2. Motor can NOT be from a truck/SUV and go in a car (ie b20 from a CRV into a del sol, not allowed)


3. All smog components must be in place and working


4. no CEL's


5. USDM ECU


6. Car must be able to obviously pass regular smog test as well.





So as you can see by the second one, since the crv is considered a SUV, you cannot swap a b20 into it to make it legal





BUT


you can swap in any b16 or b18, or even a k20/k24 and make it legal





Edit:


Here is some info about bar requirements in California





Vehicle family Rule:


Engine must come from a vehicle from the same family, ie. light duty to light duty, medium and heavy duty to same. What surprised me was the family range. Everything from a mini to a 1 ton truck is considered light duty, and engines can be interchanged. Everything greater than 1 ton pickup is considered med/heavy duty and thus cannot be used as a donor into a car.





Catalytic Converters:


CATs are not required to be installed on vehicles that did not come with them installed from the factory.


Kicker: OBDII donor vehicles have post CAT O2 sensors. These cannot be disabled in any way. Without the CATs, the PCM will throw a code, thus creating an issue with the conversion. So, although the CATs themselves are not required, if the Donor vehicle is OBDII, then by proxy, they are required.





Misc. Emissions controls:


EVERY piece of emissions package is required from the donor vehicle. That would include fuel tank (to include fuel pressure sensor), evaporative canister and all lines from and to the tank.





Referee inspection:


Pre-75 vehicles (vehicles not requiring smog tests) do not have to be referee certified. However, CHP (or any law enforcement officer, I suppose) can write you an emissions citation, which would need a visit to the referee to sign off to cancel the citation (fixit ticket). Apparently, the State is actively looking at modified vehicles for emissions violations (roadside checkpoints as mentioned previously)





http://forums.hybridz.org/showthread.php...





As you can see, a Del Sol is not a 'medium duty' whereas a CRV is one so number 2 would be correct.





For the ecu, you can get away with using a JDM one as long as the person you bar it with doesn't notice. But it is a 'requirement'.
B20b swap need help!?
#2 and #5 are false, doesnt matter where the motor came from and you do not need a us ecu.


hook up all the smog equipment and take it to the smog ref and see whats missing.
Reply:first persons right but as i remember engine must be from same year range as obd1 to obd1 and obd2 to obd2


(92-95) (96-2000)


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